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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jul 19, 2011 7:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: New Recording of 6/17/72 - UPDATE!

Dave Melton has posted over on deadlists:

"I have just uploaded the complete show from 6-17-72 at the Hollywood Bowl. I taped it myself back then, from a front row box seat.

The quality is not bad for an audience recording, in fact it's pretty damn good for the most part. The songs are still in the wrong order, haven't figured out how to fix that yet.

The important thing is, this is the complete show, I didn't miss a thing. There is only about a 5 second dropout during "the Other One", either from tape degrading or may have happened on the original recording. There are a few slightly muffled spots from the tape degrading, but overall not too bad."

You will find it here:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1972-06-17.GratefulDead1972-06-17&;reCache=1

He posted it in the "Community Audio" section, but eventually it'll show up in proper form in the GD section. Charlie Miller is making arrangements to remaster the reels; he says, "The tape sounds a bit fast, but is very clear."

It looks like our set II listings for this show have been wrong all these years. Big Railroad Blues, Jack Straw, Cumberland, Rockin' Pneumonia, and You Win Again appear on neither of the audience tapes from the show, so it seems safe to say they weren't played...

This post was modified by light into ashes on 2011-07-20 02:26:45

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jul 20, 2011 3:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New Recording of 6/17/72 - UPDATE!

After a listen, overall this recording is just a slight upgrade from the older AUD. It's a decent '72 recording - a bit muffled, and Jerry's low in the mix, but all the instruments are clear.
The thing is, for set I the older AUD is better - louder, brighter, with Jerry more upfront. It's set II where the big change comes - the older AUD turned into bassy crap, so with this one, fortunately, the Other One is a huge upgrade.

The show itself is a party show - the crowd is rowdy, the band's pretty much on break, so they play a short, rough, rockin' show.
Pigpen plays organ throughout - so this is the last dual Keith/Pigpen show. The first Stella Blue is taken at a quick pace - it's interesting because Garcia doesn't know quite how to play the song yet. Playing in the Band is one of the last of the early-'72 demented-explosive versions. (This is one of the songs that's much better on the older AUD.)
The Other One is your standard '72 magical web of sound....not as out-there as they got in Europe, but a nice way to spend 20 minutes.

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Poster: dmelton1955 Date: Jul 27, 2011 3:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New Recording of 6/17/72 - UPDATE!

I can tell you why Jerry sounds a little low in the mix. From where I was sitting, right in the front row, the tape wasn't picking up much of the mains in the P.A. The guitar that you hear is mostly coming directly from Jerry's rig about 30 feet or so in front of me. It used to be a little more audible 39 years ago...

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Jul 19, 2011 7:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New Recording of 6/17/72 - UPDATE!

will definitely be interesting to check this out ... it looks as though what this source adds to what is already in circulation is the completion of the NFA > GDTRFB combo, and then One More Saturday Night, my guess the encore; thanks for posting about this, early AUD recordings are wonderful

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Poster: dmelton1955 Date: Jul 27, 2011 4:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New Recording of 6/17/72 - UPDATE!

will definitely be interesting to check this out ... it looks as though what this source adds to what is already in circulation is the completion of the NFA > GDTRFB combo, and then One More Saturday Night, my guess the encore; thanks for posting about this, early AUD recordings are wonderful

There really wasn't an encore. I'll tell you what happened. If you listen to just before "Sugar Magnolia" starts, you can hear Weir talking to someone apparantly from the Bowl telling them "time is up". Weir jokingly said "he means that you know" and then they proceeded to play Sugar Magnolia. I think "the management" wanted them to stop after that, but they then went into Not Fade Away, Going Down the Road Feeling Bad, and went strait into One More Saturday Night for the last song. Since they never left the stage I would have to say there was no encore, but if there was it would have been all three songs after Sugar Magnolia.

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Poster: bkidwell Date: Jul 19, 2011 7:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New Recording of 6/17/72 - UPDATE!

Very exciting! It's great to see new sources for important shows still turning up almost forty years later. Listening to some of this now, the quality is pretty impressive, no problems getting into the flow of the music. I'm sure once the sonic wizards have cast their magical digital signal processing spells it will be even better, there is some clicking and pops that I think can be fixed.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Jul 19, 2011 9:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: New Recording of 6/17/72 - UPDATE!

Superb, but short, performance. I'm very anxious to hear an upgrade of the Truckin> Other One business.